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Lisboa
#70BGG8.2RATING
Updated Sep 10
1–4
PLAYERS
60–120
MINUTES
3
BEST WITH
4.6
EXPERT
ERRATA4
Clergy tile 31 réis icon is a misprintdesigner
- RULING
- "Its a missprint, the tile should have a plus sign, not a minus sign." The rules text is correct and the tile art is wrong: Clergy tile 31 earns you +2 réis every time you play a Treasury card into your Portfolio. It is not a discount.
Store majority values for Tools are 6 / 4 / 2community high-engagement
- RULING
- The early PDF rulebook printed the Tools store-majority values incorrectly. The gameboard and the printed rulebook agree on 6 wigs for the most, 4 for the second-most and 2 for the third-most, and those are the correct values. Independently confirmed four years later in thread 2772742 ("The values printed on the board are the correct values: First = 6 Points / Second = 4 points / Third = 2 points").
Clergy tiles 27, 28 and 29 revised wordingdesigner
- RULING
- "In the latest player aid you can read: 27. Get a discount of 2 Influence to Visit or Follow a Visit to the Marquis." The printed "Spend -2 Influence" is a discount on the Influence cost, not an extra payment and not a gain.
Clergy tile 10 revised wordingdesigner
- RULING
- "I will change the wording on the tile with a more specific explanation. #10 Get a discount of 1 Influence every time you Visit or Follow a Visit to a Noble."
DESIGNER CLARIFICATIONS22
What "gain Influence" actually pays outdesigner
- CONTEXT
- Rulebook p.10 states that when you gain Influence you always earn the total Influence depicted at the tops of the Noble and Ship cards in your Portfolio, which reads as if every Influence reward paid out the whole Portfolio total.
- RULING
- "You trigger influence by tucking a card in your portfolio only if it is a ship. In that case, you get influence with the value of all Noble and ship cards in the docks (top part of your portfolio). The other way to trigger influence with the same value mention above is during the church scoring by pleasing the Marquis (discarding one or more clergy tiles). You may also gain influence but with the fixed number if you tuck card number 3 and by getting a reward during city building."
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(19 replies, 74 thumbs)DATE: 2017-07-08Sponsoring an Event is not a Visitdesigner
- RULING
- "1- When you sponsor an event, you only take the action/good depicted on the card. 2- Nobody can follow your visit, because you are not visiting a Noble. 3- you don't pay influence because you are not visiting a noble."
Sponsoring still pays the sponsored action's own costsdesigner
- RULING
- "Yes, you pay a value in money to play the card, and then all associated costs if there is any." The réis paid for the Treasury value only buys the right to sponsor; land price, hiring costs and any other cost of the sponsored action are paid on top.
Taking an identical Ship is building, not upgradingdesigner
- RULING
- "Taking another similar ship is not upgrading a ship. To upgrade you need to go to a bigger ship." Taking a Ship of the same hull size is a normal Build a Ship, paid in full, and if it puts you over your Portfolio limit you must discard.
Upgrading a Ship that is at seadesigner
- RULING
- "It stays at sea until your next turn. Then, cargo is discarded and the ship becomes available as usual." Ships may be upgraded at any time, but the upgraded Ship only becomes available at the beginning of its owner's turn.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(14 replies, 6 thumbs)DATE: 2017-08-26Clergy tile 3 counts only Political cardsdesigner
- RULING
- "You only get that wig when you play a political card in your portfolio." Building a Ship does not trigger it — "you don't play a ship in your portfolio. You build a ship." Decree 68, by contrast, counts every card in the Portfolio.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(8 replies, 4 thumbs)DATE: 2017-08-13Building on a Clergy bonus space while holding 4 Clergy tilesdesigner
- RULING
- "you can build a store over a space which gives the clergy action as a bonus, just ignoring the bonus. Just as you can play a card with the clergy bonus, but must ignore it." The build or card play is legal, the Clergy bonus is forfeited, and the Cardinal "doesn't move at all."
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(13 replies, 3 thumbs)DATE: 2017-08-25Discarded Clergy tiles leave the gamedesigner
- RULING
- "The only tils that return to the bag are the ones you don't keep during setup. All others are sent to the gamebox and out of the game." This covers tiles discarded during Church Scoring and tiles discarded for a bonus.
Portfolio card benefits are mandatorydesigner
- RULING
- "You are correct, if you cannot take the benefit, you canot play the card i. Your portfolio. The exception is the penalty card that is described in the rules." All benefits on a card played into the Portfolio must be taken in full; a card whose benefit you cannot execute cannot be played there.
Decrees for "the most" of a good need at least onedesigner
- RULING
- "You need to have at least one good. Does not make any sence otherwise, you don't have the most because you have none." Zero goods never fulfils a most-of-a-kind Decree, even if every player has zero.
Officials in a plaza never return to the officedesigner
- RULING
- "The only way to take officials from the offices or plaza is by opening a public building. You can only recruit officials from your playerboard." The Recruit State Officials action can never move an Official from a plaza back into an office.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(3 replies, 3 thumbs)DATE: 2017-08-13The Portfolio is one space for discard purposesdesigner
- RULING
- "Discard a card any time you need room for it. See the portfolio as one." You may discard from a top slot to make room for a card going into a bottom slot, and vice versa; the capacity limit applies to the Portfolio as a whole.
Discarding the card whose bonus you just useddesigner
- RULING
- "Yes you can do it with any card. Once you get the bonus, you can discard it immediately to get room to a new one." A card played into the Portfolio may itself be discarded to make room for the Ship or card its own benefit produced.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(8 replies, 2 thumbs)DATE: 2023-02-06The End of Period counts as a turn for the Marquis cubedesigner
- RULING
- "See the end of period as a round where each player takes a special turn. You can spend one Marquis cube to get a second decree." The one-per-turn limit on Rubble Set markers applies to the End of Period as a whole, so one extra Decree per player.
Three Decrees from one Treasury carddesigner
- RULING
- "Yes, you can. With that card you may take up to 3 decress." A Treasury card printed with two Take a Decree actions may be combined with a Rubble Set marker on the Marquis for a third Decree.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(10 replies, 5 thumbs)DATE: 2017-08-15No Ships in play means no Sell Goods actiondesigner
- RULING
- "If there isn't any ships in game no sales action is available." Selling requires at least one docked Ship with an open cargo space, belonging to any player.
Discounts apply once per operationdesigner
- RULING
- "the discount is per operation, ok? You pay for all officials once, you pay for influence once, you pay for the store once. You pay the sponsor once." A réis discount is applied once to each payment, not once per item paid for, but it does apply to every separate payment in the same turn.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(25 replies, 3 thumbs)DATE: 2017-10-13Church Scoring triggered twice in one turndesigner
- RULING
- "Do one scoring at the end of the players turn." If the Cardinal passes the Influence icon more than once during a single turn, Church Scoring still resolves only once.
Land rewards are optionaldesigner
- RULING
- "The findings on the land are not mandatory. So you are able to take the full action. You just don't get the reward. So you don't even move the Cardinal." You may build on a land space and decline its reward, which also means a Cardinal-movement reward is not taken.
When no Public Building colour can legally be placeddesigner
- RULING
- "You cannot open more public buildings." If the only free Construction Sites are on the north side and no available Public Building matches their street colour, the Open a Public Building action is simply unavailable for the rest of the game. Plans are not discarded.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(7 replies, 4 thumbs)DATE: 2017-10-07When a Public Building colour pile runs outdesigner
- RULING
- "No longer available." An exhausted colour is not substituted with a tile from the other colour; that colour is out of the game.
Goods produced in the first Trade pay for the seconddesigner
- RULING
- "You may trade one or two goods with the nobles. And yes, you may produce and use the just produced goods to take the second trade."
Q&A5
How many Officials fit in a Noble's office?designer
- QUESTION
- Is there a limit to the number of State Officials in a Noble's office, and in the plaza below it?
- ANSWER
- "5 in the office. Unlimited on the plaza."
Can a store be built on the leftmost space of row A?designer
- QUESTION
- The leftmost space of row A has no store outline, no printed reward and no notch to the street. Is it a printing omission?
- ANSWER
- No, it is intentional and no store can ever be built there. "the real plant of Lisboa down town is like that. There isn't any building there, just a plaza."
Can you recruit when your player board is empty of Officials?designer
- QUESTION
- A player has all 8 State Officials out on the board. Can they keep taking Recruit State Officials using substitute tokens?
- ANSWER
- "If you don't have any officials on your board you cannot recruit anymore." Recruiting only ever moves Officials off your player board.
Can you open a Public Building with none of your own Officials placed?designer
- QUESTION
- With no Officials of your colour in any office or plaza, can you open a Public Building by paying for all of the required Officials?
- ANSWER
- "You don't need to have anyone there, you can hire only freelancers." Every required Official may be hired at the current Treasury value.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(6 replies, 2 thumbs)DATE: 2023-07-22What if you cannot afford to hire the missing Officials?designer
- QUESTION
- If you lack the State Officials for a Plan and also lack the réis to hire the rest, may you still take the Open a Public Building action?
- ANSWER
- "If you don't have enough state officials and you don't have money to hire them you can't take the action."
EDGE CASES8
Officials depicted on Clergy tiles 14 and 15designer
- SITUATION
- Clergy tiles 14 and 15 count as an extra completed blue or green Plan at the end of the game, and their art shows two State Officials on that Plan.
- RULING
- "they count for scoring. Not just aesthetics. It represents a completed plan from the green (Eugénio dos Santos ) or blue (Carlos Mardel) architects with 2 officials." The two Officials count for all scoring purposes, including Decrees that count Officials on completed Plans.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(5 replies, 2 thumbs)DATE: 2017-10-11Solo: Lacerda never triggers the End of Perioddesigner
- SITUATION
- In the solo game, Lacerda completes his second set of Rubble cubes before the player does.
- RULING
- "Lacerda does not trigger end of Period. Only player's rubble and cards do it."
Solo: what Lacerda does during the End of Perioddesigner
- SITUATION
- The End of Period has several steps for a normal player; it is unclear which of them Lacerda performs.
- RULING
- "The player do every normal step. Lacerda only does the rubble scoring."
Solo: Lacerda takes one Noble action per turndesigner
- SITUATION
- The solo rules do not state explicitly whether Lacerda visits every Noble on his turn or only one.
- RULING
- "No. Only one action. Like he was playing a card to visit a noble." Only the Noble where his Courtier stands.
Solo: your recruiting can displace Lacerda's Officialsdesigner
- SITUATION
- The solo rules say Lacerda's Officials are never removed, which reads as if they are also immune to being displaced when you recruit into a full office.
- RULING
- "Yes, they are kicked if there are more Lacerda Oficials than yours. The general rule still stands. He just don't use them to build public buildings." Displaced Lacerda Officials are not sent to the plaza — "They become available again. Move them to his home area."
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(7 replies, 2 thumbs)DATE: 2018-07-24Solo: Lacerda with no Influence and no wigsdesigner
- SITUATION
- The player has starved Lacerda down to zero Influence and zero wigs, so he cannot pay to visit the Noble his Courtier is on.
- RULING
- "In that case Lacerda skips his Noble Action but still takes the minor ones." He does not go negative and he does not stop playing.
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(13 replies, 2 thumbs)DATE: 2019-09-15Solo: Lacerda's Influence gain counts both Portfoliosdesigner
- SITUATION
- Lacerda has few cards of his own, so his Influence gains look far smaller than the player's.
- RULING
- "when Lacerda earns influence he gats a total influence from both his and your portfolio."
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(13 replies, 2 thumbs)DATE: 2019-09-15Solo: which majorities count at the end of the gamedesigner
- SITUATION
- The solo ranking table requires majorities, and it is unclear whether tying Lacerda counts and which categories are compared.
- RULING
- "You only look at stores majorities, and you must have more. Otherwise is a tie, not a majority."
AUTHOR: newrev (Vital Lacerda, designer)SOURCE: boardgamegeek.com(4 replies, 1 thumb)DATE: 2018-07-15
Last researched: 2026-09-08
CATEGORIES
City Building·Economic·Industry / Manufacturing·Political
MECHANICS
Area Majority / InfluenceHand ManagementMulti-Use CardsOpen DraftingSet CollectionSolo / Solitaire GameTile Placement
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